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bullet BleeDMeAnOceaN
03 Jul : 12:12
i care and remember willie...welcome back ! now lets hear that laugh!!!
bullet Willie Nelson
11 Jun : 16:45
Well, for those that may care/remember me, i'm back from AF.
bullet deovindice
10 May : 23:40
well, hostmonster has made a pass change and it wont let me change the pass to anything i wiull be able to remember, and i can't disable auto pay on the account that i cant access either.. denial to our cpanel, which we pay for.. like a landlord changing a lock on a resident before the rent is even due, with the rent money inside the apartment...
bullet Mishikinakwah
08 Apr : 01:45
I-ah-yah no-sa-so Kilo-nan-tope-lah saw my name on your sight be careful with the LAPD your playing with armed idiots that have the self righteous arm of the law (right or wrong they have the guns)
bullet Mishikinakwah
08 Apr : 01:45
I-ah-yah no-sa-so Kilo-nan-tope-lah saw my name on your sight be careful with the LAPD your playing with armed idiots that have the self righteous arm of the law (right or wrong they have the guns)
bullet skibs
24 Mar : 11:53
long time Deo..hi!!
bullet deovindice
24 Feb : 14:47
hi skibbers :x
bullet Dawn
15 Feb : 22:10
This form should be used exclusively to report employee misconduct. Upon completion of this form, return it in person to the nearest police station, or mail the top copy to LOS ANGELES POLICE DEPARTMENT, Internal Affairs Division, P.O. Box 30158, Los Angeles, CA 90099-4896.
Make a copy before and Keep it your records.
bullet Dawn
15 Feb : 22:07
While I don’t know if the local IA Group intervenes regarding the misconduct of BID officers, they can and I believe, will look into actual law enforcement complaints.
If you believe that the conduct of an employee was inappropriate, you may request to speak to a supervisor at any police station, Internal Affairs Group, or the Police Commission. This will result in the immediate investigation of your complaint.
Internal Affairs Group and The Police Commission is located at the Police Administration Building, 100 West 1st Street. Professional Standards Bureau, is located in the Bradbury Building, 304 S. Broadway Street, Room 280.
bullet Dawn
15 Feb : 22:00
INTIMIDATION: Threatening physical harm or otherwise frightening people when they do not cooperate or confess to a crime.
FELONY ARREST - a private person making a felony arrest may be found criminally liable for a false arrest if the arrest is made or caused to be made by others and the arresting party does not have reasonable cause to believe that the person arrested committed the felony.
EVERYONE HAS CIVIL LIABILITY-The legal term “PARTY” can be a person, company, or organization.
When one party believes it has been injured, damaged, or wronged by another party, it may make a lawful claim for damages. The claim or “LAW SUIT” is presented to a civil court where both parties may explain their positions to a judge or jury.
This information was taken directly from the February 2005, POWER TO ARREST TRAINING MANUAL STATE OF CALIFORNIA, BUREAU OF SECURITY AND INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES
bullet Dawn
15 Feb : 21:57
As I am still unfamiliar with “the legalities” of how the local private security interact with the police departments and have been able to blatantly violate civil liberties without any repercussion...I am not sure who/where complaints against them would be filed at this time. However; I have located the California Department of Consumer Affairs, Bureau of Security and Investigative Services- Powers to Arrest Training Manual which is part of their required training. Within this document it clearly points out that the actions of the local private security can be considered CRIMINAL LIABILITY not only civil liability for the security officer but for the business employer as well.
bullet Dawn
15 Feb : 21:57
Sorry folks- you will have a hard time convincing me that SEVEN well-fed, physically fit security guards were “required to physically subdue” ONE homeless young man who’s only “crime” was sitting down. Please take note that I am being kind with my wording and that what I really believe occurred was much more serious and by far a legitimate crime committed against a homeless individual by those given certain powers of authority. It is my hope that people will step up and start taking action by properly documenting these events and taking this information to those with the power and means to correct this problem.
bullet Dawn
15 Feb : 21:52
From this message, I would have to wonder if the misconduct and brutality against the transient population is going unreported to the very ones who could and would take action to prevent it! It only takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch… and it only takes one bad cop (or a hand-full to give the whole department a bad reputation)
I believe the majority of the Law Enforcement Officer’s set out to fulfill the department motto which is “to Protect and to Serve.” I believe most men and women in uniform do their best to do perform their duties with Pride, Integrity and Guts but that there are also those that abuse the privilege of wearing their uniform by taking advantage of their authority, hiding behind their badge and violating the very laws they are sworn to uphold and that should be held criminally liable when their actions against the homeless are unwarranted, extreme, violent, excessively forceful, so on and so forth.
bullet Dawn
15 Feb : 21:51
Your local Chief of Police- Charlie Beck
Wrote this to the LAPD “Constitutional Policing – Even though we have been released from judicial oversight of the Federal Consent Decree we are still responsible to police in a constitutional manner. We must never break the law in order to enforce the law. To do so brings shame on our profession and alienates the people we serve, the community on whose cooperation we depend if we are to be effective. No officer is justified in breaking the law on the grounds of expediency.”
“Process over results-Policing is the only important profession in which process is always more important than results. No one cares how a surgeon saves a life as long as the operation is a success. In policing we must zealously guard the way we complete our tasks in order to maintain the most important asset of the organization, our credibility.” (lapdblog Web)
bullet Dawn
15 Feb : 21:26
Sometimes its hard to believe when you’ve been mistreated, kicked around, and seen the dirty cop step over the line and get away with it but there really are far more hard-working good cops out there busting their butts to make a positive difference who DO THE RIGHT THING ON A DAILY BASIS and want to help people. It’s really a messed up situation when everyone forgets there are good officers out there because the bad cops seem to stay in the spot light and their bad reputation taint the situation so badly that people fail to remember that there are still some dedicated to upholding the law and actually doing the right thing. They may be far and few between, but as long as there are still a few good ones out there…there is hope! (Yes-I believe! The law is the law- It is NO RESPECTER OF PERSONS...it does not care what side of the blue line you were on once it has been broken)
bullet Dawn
15 Feb : 20:44
That information came straight out of the Powers to Arrest Training Manual- February 2005 BSIS
bullet Dawn
15 Feb : 20:42
With regard to BID: Per BSIS (California Law here folks)
EXCESSIVE PHYSICAL FORCE: Where an arrest is made, the law allows only the use of physical force, which is reasonable or necessary to restrain the suspect if he is resisting, in order to make the arrest. Where more force is used than that which the law allows, the arresting party is said to be using “excessive force” and may be held criminally as well as civilly liable.
bullet Dawn
15 Feb : 19:55
You can call 1-800-339-6868 (24/7) to file a complaint. From what I have been able to read so far, it sounds to me like the local Chief of Police-Charlie Beck is AGAINST inappropriate conduct and has a pretty strong opinion on law enforcement officers conducting themselves with intergrity and in a professional manner as not to cause further damage to the credibility of the LAPD. If this is the case, I would think that reported misconduct would have serious consequences to those found guilty of the charges against them.
bullet Dawn
15 Feb : 14:59
Which officer came over to you and took your camera away?
bullet Dawn
15 Feb : 14:58
Good job on the video of Yello!
bullet Dawn
15 Feb : 14:46
Please keep in mind...Even if the LAPD and BID are acting inappropriately...
Two wrongs don't make a right. It only makes matters worse and the ones without the badge end up in jail.

Be safe and stay out of their way as much as possible. You must file a complaint and document their misconduct or it will go uncorrected.
bullet Dawn
15 Feb : 13:47
Just joking about the muzzles, but really viewing what it actually happening is what is important and letting people see that minus the cussing
bullet Dawn
15 Feb : 13:46
must muzzle all those around you when filming as it is more important to document what is going on and get it out to the public than it is to have the credibility harmed by the comments being made.
bullet Dawn
15 Feb : 13:43
ah, dear friend... some of it- tis you as well!
bullet deovindice
15 Feb : 13:41
i know, i keep telling that to those around me but it doesn't work..

it sucks, i wish it would work, but alas, i cant control what my brothers and sisters do.. what can i do about that?

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